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November 20th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

“Were You There…?” Revisited And Rebutted For Naysayers

A Courtesy Update For Our Readers…

<strong>UPDATE</strong>

A READERS COURTESY UPDATE

Folks — this is just a quick and interesting update to our guest column about the interesting inventor Pete Samaruck entitled “Another GTL Guest Column: Were You There When The Lights Went Out…” — By Charlotte Wilson“, originally posted on October 10th, 2009. This column received 440 comments. We thank Ms. Wilson for her kind and objective words she offers her readers for our website, by the way…

In a “must read” update by Ms. Wilson at her own site, Worldview-Opinion, her readers are updated to some interesting events she says have transpired since those comments were automatically closed on November 10th.

Again, a very interesting read, indeed. Please pay Ms. Wilson a visit and we thank her again for her stirring guest column.

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  • Joe Lovell
    9:59 pm on November 20th, 2009 1

    Ah, perpetual motion revisited.

    How about a bit on something important like this?

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/20/do-hacked-e-mails-show-global-warming-fraud/

    Yeah, AGW is real science, just like perpetual motion.

    The internet is on fire this morning with confirmation computers at one of the world’s leading climate research centres were hacked, and the information released on the internet.
    A 62 megabyte zip file, containing around 160 megabytes of emails, pdfs and other documents, has been confirmed as genuine by the head of the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit, Dr Phil Jones.

    In an exclusive interview with Investigate magazine’s TGIF Edition, Jones confirms his organization has been hacked, and the data flying all over the internet appears to have come from his organisation.
    “It was a hacker. We were aware of this about three or four days ago that someone had hacked into our system and taken and copied loads of data files and emails.”

    One of the most damning e-mails published comes from Dr. Jones himself. In an e-mail from almost exactly ten years ago, Jones appears to discuss a method of overlaying data of temperature declines with repetitive, false data of higher temperatures:

    From: Phil Jones
    To: ray bradley ,mann@[snipped], mhughes@
    [snipped]
    Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement
    Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
    Cc: k.briffa@[snipped],t.osborn@[snipped]
    Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
    Once Tim’s got a diagram here we’ll send that either later today or first thing tomorrow. I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd [sic] from1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline. Mike’s series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.
    Thanks for the comments, Ray.
    Cheers, Phil
    Prof. Phil Jones
    Climatic Research Unit

    Jones told Investigate that he couldn’t remember the context of “hide the decline,” and that the process was a way to fill data gaps rather than mislead. But when scientists talk about “tricks” in the context of hiding data, it certainly seems suspicious.

    Andrew Bolt points to a couple of other suspicious entries in the database as well for the Herald-Sun. For instance, here we have scientists discussing how to delete inconvenient data in order to emphasize other data that supports their conclusions:

    From: Tom Wigley [...]
    To: Phil Jones [...]
    Subject: 1940s
    Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:25:38 -0600
    Cc: Ben Santer [...]
    Phil,
    Here are some speculations on correcting SSTs to partly explain the 1940s warming blip. If you look at the attached plot you will see that theland also shows the 1940s blip (as I’m sure you know).
    So, if we could reduce the ocean blip by, say, 0.15 degC, then this would be significant for the global mean – but we’d still have to explain the land blip. I’ve chosen 0.15 here deliberately. This still leaves an ocean blip, and i think one needs to have some form of ocean blip to explain the land blip (via either some common forcing, or ocean forcing land, or vice versa, or all of these). When you look at other blips, the land blips are 1.5 to 2 times (roughly) the ocean blips—higher sensitivity plus thermal inertia effects. My 0.15 adjustment leaves things consistent with this, so you can see where I am coming from.
    Removing ENSO does not affect this.
    It would be good to remove at least part of the 1940s blip, but we are still left with “why the blip”.
    Let me go further. If you look at NH vs SH and the aerosol effect (qualitatively or with MAGICC) then with a reduced ocean blip we get continuous warming in the SH, and a cooling in the NH—just as one would expect with mainly NH aerosols.
    The other interesting thing is (as Foukal et al. note – from MAGICC) that the 1910-40 warming cannot be solar. The Sun can get at most 10% of this with Wang et al solar, less with Foukal solar. So this may well be NADW, as Sarah and I noted in 1987 (and also Schlesinger later). A reduced SST blip in the 1940s makes the 1910-40 warming larger than the SH (which it currently is not)—but not really enough.
    So … why was the SH so cold around 1910? Another SST problem? (SH/NH data also attached.)
    This stuff is in a report I am writing for EPRI, so I’d appreciate any comments you (and Ben) might have.
    Tom.

    vegofish Reply:

    @Joe Lovell, This is the only place you will see anything about this Joe, Thanks for bringing it to us, nobody in the MSM will.

  • vegofish
    2:25 pm on November 21st, 2009 2

    25 posts of some interesting thoughts, another 25 of some entertainment value and about 400 of “Pete” telling people who question his honesty about his invention and his history to eff off.

    Joe Lovell Reply:

    @vegofish, Thanks, I wasn’t going to point out that most of the posts on that thread were by Pete or Ms. Wilson.

    re: cooked numbers for AGW – no matter how much fraud can be shown, the Profit AlGore and his apostle Mikey will still rake in millions, um, more likely billions, from the gulliblity of the sheeple.

    Hey! Check out Oxy Oil & Gore. Now THERE is another subject for serious investigation. As VP pushing to sell the Naval Oil Reserves to a company that he just happened to have some major stock in? Makes you go hmmm…..

  • Powervet
    1:22 pm on November 23rd, 2009 3

    Hey GTL, did you track posts vs. clicks in the last run of the Pete/Charlotte versus Humanity saga?

    click.

    52Gunner Reply:

    @Powervet,
    The last blog was a constant source of hilarity!

    And Charlotte’s latest ramblings in her “blog” shows just how far they have slipped into paranoia.

    They’re pathetic as usual.

    Powervet Reply:

    @52Gunner,

    I did read her latest. It seemed rather scattered, seemingly assembled hodge-podge and with trouble focusing thoughts into words.

    I was proud to have my name in lights, seems she really took offense to our half-black President being called half-white.

    Notably omitted from her most recent post were responses from Peter Sumaruck. Shocking.

    I do not think we’ll see much more of them out in the web world. They will stick to her blog, comments-disabled.

    52Gunner Reply:

    @Powervet,
    I think we all scored pretty highly with her!

    BTW: Looks like Peter Sumaruck may be heading to Court. The rumor mill has it that he’s been served with a summons. Guess his Lorazepam isn’t working for him, as I hear he’s so paranoid now he runs from his own shadow. Oh, excuse me, he ALREADY ran from his own shadow.

    But seriously, I think Peter Sumaruck belives everyone is now out to get him, has him under surveillance, and are probably peeking in his windows. Next thing you know, he’ll be getting messages from God through his invention, and he’ll redeem the world (all but us “naysayers” anyway).

    Did you also notice that anyone who disagrees with Charlotte Wilson and Peter Sumaruck now are automatically “White supremacists?”

    Powervet Reply:

    @52Gunner,

    White Supremacists/The Race Card is so 2005. No one falls for that crap anymore. Everyone, of all races, has been called racist so much the insult doesn’t even sting that much anymore. Its been done to death, lol.

    It doesn’t matter what the insult is, it will not make Pete a SEAL/SEAL-trained combat contractor. It will not make his free energy machine reputable and it will not make Charlotte Wilson an author.

    We’ve seen the last of them, except she’ll copy/paste from blogs like this one and try to spin some conspiracy theory out of it.

    52Gunner Reply:

    @Powervet,
    I hope you’re right, although little Peter’s attempts at insults were pretty funny!

    The only conspiracy I’m interested in is who served the turkey that will put me into a coma on Thursday!

    Happy Thanksgiving, fellow naysayer!

  • howard
    12:34 am on November 24th, 2009 4

    Anyone chasing the leads Charlotte leaves as dog droppings will realize Pete is as FU’d as his brother and mother. Pete’s problems are the result of one bottle or another. Guns won’t save him from himself. “Free energy” won’t save his soul. The IRS doesn’t give a damn how much he “gives away.”

  • Tree hugger
    12:40 am on December 1st, 2009 5

    Powervet, get it right damn you…Pete is a S.e.A.L…thats the way the true operators spell it. He has the zippo and hat to prove it!

    52Gunner Reply:

    @Tree hugger,
    Right…and if my grandmother would have had wheels, she’d have been a push cart.

    Tree hugger Reply:

    @52Gunner, Hee hee…

    But really…this thing is weird. I am beginning to wonder if Pete as we know him truly exists. I think he may be a product of CharLauras imagination…
    No one can truly be as twisted as he seems to be. Or could they?

    52Gunner Reply:

    @Tree hugger,

    I think he does exist, in his own mind at least. He’s definitely twisted enough to believe his own lies, and make other weak minded people (Charlotte/Laura) believe them as well. I think that in their cases its mutual schizophrenia.

    Peter Sumaruck is a sniveling coward who seeks to create his own self-importance through lies and pitiful attempts at intimidation. He’s a small man, physically, psychologically, and mentally. He sees his fantasy world crashing down around him, and has no clue how to face reality.

    Fortunately, reality is closing in on him VERY quickly. He thinks that everyone is out to get him when in reality, he has caused his own downfall.

    Steve Robinson Reply:

    @52Gunner, it has occurred to me that Laura/Charlotte may be the ‘brains’ behind this scam and Pete may only be a doped-up dupe who came up with a bogus “free energy” machine but didn’t have any real plans for what to do next. She’s pushing the marketing, she’s pushing the “I wrote a book about this heroic man”, she’s running the no-comments-accepted blog where he was first identified as a SEAL, then she changed it to “Se.A.L.”, then she changed it to “SEAL-trained” combat contractor, then changed it… well you get the idea. All her changes are “explained” and all are worthless. She’s the one pushing the conspiracy theories. She’s the one pushing all the buttons, posting all the BS about Pete’s wonderful machine, and making all the bizarre accusations… while Pete’s mainly concerned with sitting in his tin-sided RV in Waco, popping pills, drinking beer, and posting obscene rants filled with poorly spelled expletives.

    The two of them are obviously hoping to score a sale or two on a corporate level, or to some hugely wealthy investor, and would likely immediately drop from sight with the cash if that were to happen. Pete would be fairly easy to find due to his peculiar personality and habits, but Laura/Charlotte appears marginally more intelligent and might elude initial pursuit. Eventually, though, I have no doubt they would both be brought to justice.

    Like I said… it appears as though SHE may be the one heading up the scam and using Pete as a prop.

    52Gunner Reply:

    @Steve Robinson,

    I never looked at it that way, Steve…but it sure makes sense.

    Either way, they both have the mental level of a brick. And I’m probably insulting the brick!

  • Treehugger
    4:13 pm on December 4th, 2009 6

    I checked out CharLauras blog…I am so cheesed off that I havent made it into blog infamy like you guys…damn the luck!
    This old AF guy finds it really interesting that Petey doesnt claim to be Navy, yet has no qualms about calling out retired Naval folk about how they arent Navy. WTH?
    Hey Pete, why done you name the SEALS who gave you the hat pin and asked you to wear it because you were such a bad ass covert operative…the must be retired by now. Or maybe hae them get ahold of Steve R. and he can vet them. Or reveal them as being phonies just like you…

  • Powervet
    1:46 pm on December 13th, 2009 7

    I speculate that this time Laura is simply watching this comment section and assembling data for her next blog post. Something along the lines of: “We said nothing, and look, these people continued to blah blah blah against the omnipotent one Saint Peter the Great of Waco.” “We are right, they are wrong” “Pete will save the world, they are just racists and vigilantes, and so on and so forth.”

  • Don
    12:31 pm on December 18th, 2009 8

    I have spent the last couple of hours pouring over blogs, e-mails, website links, court records… Pete and Laura are both are freakin’ crazy, paranoid, and delusional.

    The cool thing is…I am about to become another agent of the vast corporate/military conspiracy to discredit them and keep the “flux capacitor” from being introduced to the world.

    Holy schnikeys, I wish there was a way to organize this whole thing into a screen play and get a movie deal. One of those “Men Who Stare At Goats” type movies.

    52Gunner Reply:

    @Don, I don’t think that staring all Peter Sumaruck does with goats!

    Maybe he just found the “Oscillation Overthruster” from Buckaroo Banzai and is trying to go home to Planet Ten.

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