Is Polanski’s Arrest “Political” In Nature? Hollywood Says “Yes”, Common Sense Says “No”…
Let’s start this one off with a reminder from the LEFT-WING MEDIA publication called Salon:
Reminder: Roman Polanski raped a child
Roman Polanski raped a child. Let’s just start right there, because that’s the detail that tends to get neglected when we start discussing whether it was fair for the bail-jumping director to be arrested at age 76, after 32 years in “exile” (which in this case means owning multiple homes in Europe, continuing to work as a director, marrying and fathering two children, even winning an Oscar, but never — poor baby — being able to return to the U.S.). Let’s keep in mind that Roman Polanski gave a 13-year-old girl a Quaalude and champagne, then raped her, before we start discussing whether the victim looked older than her 13 years, or that she now says she’d rather not see him prosecuted because she can’t stand the media attention. Before we discuss how awesome his movies are or what the now-deceased judge did wrong at his trial, let’s take a moment to recall that according to the victim’s grand jury testimony, Roman Polanski instructed her to get into a jacuzzi naked, refused to take her home when she begged to go, began kissing her even though she said no and asked him to stop; performed cunnilingus on her as she said no and asked him to stop; put his penis in her vagina as she said no and asked him to stop; asked if he could penetrate her anally, to which she replied, “No,” then went ahead and did it anyway, until he had an orgasm.
Can we do that? Can we take a moment to think about all that, and about the fact that Polanski pled guilty to unlawful sex with a minor, before we start talking about what a victim he is? Because that would be great, and not nearly enough people seem to be doing it. …”
Well, yeah — I think we CAN “do that”, can’t we? This man should have had his ‘nads snipped off decades ago, yet, he has remained free and on the loose all this time. That is, until now, as Swiss authorities have said “enough is enough” and have hauled this traitorous pedophile off to where he belongs — “The Crossbar Hotel”. Yet, still, as one can imagine easily enough — the “Hollywood Leftists” (not “Liberals” — “Hollywood Leftists” — big difference there) are coming to his defense, spouting out this crappola about how this stalking PEDOPHILE was the target of some “far-right” political faction.
What? Switzerland? A far-right, “George Dubya Bush” sort of nation? In pursuit of ALL “left-wingers”, despite their [Psst -- ALLEGED] guilt in harming innocent children? Are we talking about the same “Switzerland” here, folks?
The “Hollywood Left” needs to realize something and realize it SOON — they are living on a much different planet than the rest of us NORMAL “Liberals” are living on. A planet where nobody but other “Hollywood Liberals” can live and breathe — a planet where there is just “something” in the water and nobody but their fellow “Hollywood Libs” can describe.
Folks — NEWSFLASH: A longtime pedophile has been arrested and the world is now a safer place as a result. I don’t give a damn whether or not this guy was a famous movie director or a plumber — like “Joe The Plumber”, for example — he’s a frigging PEDOPHILE and I’m breathing a sigh of relief for the fact he has FINALLY been captured and removed from society…
As should YOU be.
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Other notable blogger reactions (Surprisingly, mostly Right): Michelle Malkin; Jazz Shaw of The Moderate Voice; Allahpundit of Hot Air; Jay of Stop The ACLU…
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1:14 am on September 29th, 2009 1
I think if I was the father of the victim, I’d be in a Swiss jail right now for what I did to Polanski 30 years ago.
1:48 am on September 29th, 2009 2
Even though that one victim is now saying to not pursue it, he has been evading justice for a long time. Even though he thought the judge was going to change the plea bargain from time served to something else, it doesn’t justify jumping bail.
But I expect that the Alec Baldwins, the Streisands, the Mikey Moores will all be claiming that he has suffered enough in his homeland.
bad dog Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 5:17 am
@Joe Lovell, I doubt Michael Moore will take a position on this issue. There’s no Hollywood cabal here and the “Hollywood Left,” as GTL put it, doesn’t have to do anything to “save” its image. Many actors have worked with Polanski, admire his work, and don’t want to see him go to jail. It’s the same impulse that prompts many in the sports community to plea for clemency for their favorite athletes when they commit their many crimes.
But a crime’s a crime, and Polanski was convicted, so to jail he must go.
2:24 am on September 29th, 2009 3
I have heard of a custom in some remote regions of my home territory that dealt with crimes of deviance such as this in a manner that promoted the circle of life, utilizing large carnivores. Probably a fate too kind for this slime ball.
vegofish Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 2:30 am
@vegofish, Do you think his taste for children diminished with age? Does anyone think his sickness was confined to a single indiscretion 32 years ago? Unlikely
4:55 pm on September 29th, 2009 4
I have never watched a Roman Polanski movie because of this. I have not watched a Jane Fonda Movie because of her actions during the Vietnam war. I have stopped watching Richard Dreyfus. I do not watch George Clooney. I will not watch a whoopi golddiger movie. Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins Nope. Alec Baldwin I stopped watching until he came out and admitted that he was wrong. Not that his political views were wrong but that he used his stature to further his personal views and he realized that was not right…for that I admire him and am willing to say okay…Ill watch your stuff again.
See I have absolutely no problem with these hollywood types voicing their opinions. Marching in the streets. Calling George W. Bush a Nazi. its America. Its their right.
Its also my right to vote with my pocketbook.
See I loved John Wayne…he might have been a left wing communist for all I know but if he was I didnt know it….cause he kept it to himself. I dont care what these people believe in private. I watch their movies because they are good and the actors/actresses are good.
If they choose to march in the streets for or against a political or religious cause then Its also my right to say no at the box office and pay per view.
If more people would just stop Idolizing these morons they would come to realize they are nothing more then regular citizens who happen to get paid a purdy good salary for their abilities.
bad dog Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
@GawdDayumAmerica, Oh, wow, this is rich. John Wayne was very political. He was a member of the John Birch Society, participated in having other actors blacklisted during the McCarthy era, and made political movies to promote conservative causes, including the Vietnam War. Like a good right winger, he advocated military service and toughness during WWII but avoided enlisting and actually doing any fighting himself. He considered entering politics but avoided it based on a belief the American people didn’t want an actor in the White House. He said stupid right wing things just like you, like: “I believe in white supremacy until blacks are educated to a point of responsibility.”
In other words, he was exactly the kind of obnoxious celebrity you say you hate—but apparently only if they’re liberals.
It’s sad you won’t to watch his movies anymore. The Searchers was his best work, imho.
Remember the Duke said at least one classy thing that you might learn from—when JFK was elected:
“I didn’t vote for him but he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.”
GawdDayumAmerica Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
@bad dog,
See Bad Dog. I’m pretty sure you werent even born yet when I was watching John Wayne movies.
There surely wasnt an internet with every utterance ever voiced at the googles command. Fire up Utube to see what everyone’s ever said…ever.
When John Wayne said he would campaign for Barry Goldwater I was like 12 years old. I did not read the newspapers. We had 3 television networks and where I lived we could only get 2 of the three.
Television did not start till in the afternoon. After school. Tv used to go off at midnight. There was one newspaper in my town and at the grand age of 5 I didnt read much and when I did manage to see a John Wayne movie it was for a quarter and in a movie theater.
GawdDayumAmerica Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
@GawdDayumAmerica,
Incidently Frank Sinatra campaigned for and advocated for JFK. I still watch his movies and will listen to his songs. My knowledge of him does not have him calling Nixon a Nazi. Murderer. Hitler.
Marilyn Monroe had trysts with JFK Ill still watch a movie she was in. She wasnt evil because she had sex with a democrat. She just never march the streets shouting America sucks.
There is a big difference between mainstream political viewpoints and radical in your face partisanship which calls my side or for that matter YOUR side horrendous names and impugns yours or my integrity.
I do not mind Oprah campaigning for Obama. Ill still watch her shows. She was a strong advocate for Obama and democratic principals. Fine. The minute she starts shouting Bush is a Nazi or GawdDayumAmerica then shes out of my will.
You misunderstand. Polanski is a freakin child rapist. I wont support him. Period.
Hanoi Jane was a traitor for giving aid and comfort to the enemy during a war. I will not support her.
The Dixie Chicks have every right to go to England and trash talk our president. Fine. I wont support them with another purchase of their music and by the gods they were my FAVORITE GROUP up to that day when they refused to apologize. Fine no apology needed. I just wont apologize for NOT buying their albums.
bad dog Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
@GawdDayumAmerica, who says, “Incidently Frank Sinatra campaigned for and advocated for JFK. I still watch his movies and will listen to his songs. My knowledge of him does not have him calling Nixon a Nazi. Murderer. Hitler.”
So when your favorite wingnuts call Obama a Nazi. Murderer. Hitler. You are just as mad at them, right?
What, you’re not?
I guess that makes you a hypocrite.
“Marilyn Monroe had trysts with JFK Ill still watch a movie she was in. She wasnt evil because she had sex with a democrat. She just never march the streets shouting America sucks.”
So you won’t listen to Rush Limbaugh because he hopes America fails because Obama is President?
So you condemn the Teabagger Movement because they march the street shouting that America sucks?
What did you say? You won’t do it?
Well then you’re a hypocrite.
“You misunderstand. Polanski is a freakin child rapist. I wont support him. Period.”
Good for you. I don’t care.
“The Dixie Chicks have every right to go to England and trash talk our president. Fine. I wont support them with another purchase of their music and by the gods they were my FAVORITE GROUP up to that day when they refused to apologize. Fine no apology needed. I just wont apologize for NOT buying their albums.”
Just like I won’t support any wingnut like Sarah Palin who flies to China, laughing claims to speak for “Main Street USA,” and trash talks our President.
Surely you won’t support her for the same reason you won’t buy Dixie Chicks albums.
What? Oh, here we go again.
You’re a hypocrite.
cld Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
@GawdDayumAmerica, Of course GDA, the Dog character was not yet created at that time, and his master only tells him what to say, so your memory is correct. You cant argue with a cartoon character…with a conscious controlled by his master….
bad dog Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
@cld, And here comes the stalker right on cue to hump my leg with his BS. It’s my own fault, though. CLD, you see, is a character I created in a book I wrote called, Stupid Wingnut “Pundits” Who Shriek Nonsense And Think It’s Brilliant.
I think you and FandB need to sleep this one off. You’re not bothering me in the slightest by being an ass. Or keep it coming and I’ll gladly dish it back to you. It’s why I’m here. To collect a tax on stupid that’s eight years in arrears.
cld Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
@bad dog,
bad dog Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
@cld, The most intelligent thing you’ve said since I’ve known you. Thank you for that.
cld Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
@bad dog, oh, sorry, this was intended for your master Dog…Please put the link in the inbox for him….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQb2m6VJ-eo
bad dog Reply:
September 30th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
@cld, Don’t anger ME!?! I WORK IN SALES!!!!!!
bad dog Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
@GawdDayumAmerica, That’s fine. I’m only pointing out that John Wayne was just as guilty of using celebrity to advance a political cause—assuming, strangely, that that’s even a crime for whatever weird reason—as people like Susan Sarandon. So if you condemn Sarandon, you must condemn John Wayne, or you’re a what? What? Say it with me:
Hypocrite.
GawdDayumAmerica Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
@bad dog, Once again I fear you miss the point BadDog because you are so determined to have an argument and convince yourself that anyone who does not agree with you on every conceivable matter most surely must be evil.
See my above comment on Oprah. I dont care if a star is political. I only care when they cross that line that I have arbitrarily set for them based upon my own set of values and beliefs. Such as Hanoi Jane….Roman Polanski raping a child.
I could belabor the point but I’m pretty sure everyone gets it. Perhaps even you.
bad dog Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
@GawdDayumAmerica, Somebody committing rape and somebody distasteful political views is not equivalent. If it is, then you’re a rapist.
No, I got your point loud and clear. You equate liberal dissent to rape of minors, but when I apply your exact same rule to your favorite right wingers who love to trash America and the President, you lamely try to weasel out of it by acting innocent and rational.
Sorry, GDA, but you’re neither. You’re a hypocrite, plain and simple. And a rapist.
GawdDayumAmerica Reply:
September 30th, 2009 at 8:28 am
So lets see now Im a nazi and a rapist and a hypocrite.
One can only let your posts stand on their own merit.
bad dog Reply:
September 30th, 2009 at 11:02 am
@GawdDayumAmerica, You stand accused by your own logic, GDA. If you use it against others, it can be used against you. And in your case, easily.
5:35 pm on September 29th, 2009 5
For whatever reason, I’ve heard several people say that he should get a pass…
9:13 pm on September 29th, 2009 6
“Bad Dog The Traitor”s favorite waterboarding reference, Mancow, opined this morning that Polanski should be executed. He continued by saying that ALL child molesters should be executed.
That may be a bit extreme, but I think nearly everyone would at least like to see the scumbag stand trial for raping a minor before a jury of his peers.
You’ll probably find the desire for justice in this case is pretty much unanimous, except maybe for “Bad Dog The Traitor”.
bad dog Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
@Fandb, And FandB the Self-Hating Gay Republican wishes Polanski had raped him instead. Which is strange, because FandB apparently goes for the stormtrooper type, you know, the blond SS guy in the propaganda posters, and Polanski doesn’t fit that mold.
Man, I hope he does something to get his rocks off soon because being the object of his obvious sexual frustrations is getting old.
cld Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
@bad dhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrwDFgEeFCEog,
cld Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
@cld, opps, teleprompter problems…
cld Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
@cld, Here is the Dog Characters and his masters view of the liberal world…We are in the “pit” putting lotion on our skin. They are holding the rope, telling us what to do….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQb2m6VJ-eo
bad dog Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
@cld, Uh. Yeah. You could say that.
11:25 pm on September 29th, 2009 7
Looks like everyone is having fun with their sand fights in the sandbox.
cld Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
@Mike 300 Spartans, Well Mike, if we had REAL people here instead of cartoon characters, I think we could have more rational discussions. Guess someone thinks the Bad Dog is a good act to promote…Wish we could go back to the days when you, Doomed, Joe, etc, had real conversations, debating issues, instead of virtual personalities “throwing sand”…great observation Mike…
Mike 300 Spartans Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
@cld, Even if what you say is true, I can’t help but think you must enjoy it to some degree. I’m not trying to judge here, some people like mud wrestling and some like mud slinging. It is just hard for me to jump in when it is clean without having to waddle through the slop to get out when it turns silly.
cld Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
@Mike 300 Spartans, Agree Mike, but it gets to a point here, where you have one Bad Bully throwing sand at everyone, and you have to jump in and fight back…even if it is a fake personality….Not everyone in the sand box seems to see who is behind the mud slinging, and the intent…believe it or not Mike….
bad dog Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
@cld, Actually, CLD, you and FandB are basically harassing me. FandB is calling me a traitor every chance he gets and slinging vicious insults, and you just seem to write whatever garbage pops into your Tourette’s Syndrome-plagued head. It’s funny how you think I’m the one seeking the attention, but if you look at every single thing I write, there’s you, following closely, humping my leg with your repetitious drivel every chance you get.
Then you have the nerve to complain about me. You really are a whiny bitch, you know that?
cld Reply:
September 30th, 2009 at 9:52 am
@bad dog, The players say that “Golf exposes you, it can strip you naked”. Character, or lack there of, stress mgt, true intention, is revealed. Your created character is revealed everytime you are told to respond to any charge/disagreement with calling the opposition a “whiny bitch”…you would be thrown off the course and disqualitfied. You can dish it out but simply throw temper tantrums when you miss a shot…which is all the time. You Bad Dog character, play your own game on your own course, and wont let anyone play along, if they are not far left, marxist, progressive, wakko left…or at least thats what your master tells you to say….
bad dog Reply:
September 30th, 2009 at 11:05 am
@cld, Uh, actually, FandB is having a classic meltdown and hurling every insult he can think of to try to get my goat. Here we see the right wing mind exposed as in your proverb about golf. It’s a beautiful hissy fit so don’t interrupt it with your Tourette’s.
Mike 300 Spartans Reply:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
@cld, I’m not sure I accept your premise that one has to fight back, but I don’t know, about time for me to drive home, I’ll have to think about it. Let me start by kind of wondering out loud, which is more irritating, someone calling me an idiot or someone telling me the sun is a block of ice. Off the cuff, I’m leaning to being more annoyed by the latter, but I know it is a little more complicated than that.
bad dog Reply:
September 30th, 2009 at 1:14 am
@Mike 300 Spartans, What about people who call you an idiot, say the sun is a block of ice, and then blame you for making it cold? Can you fight back against them?
Mike 300 Spartans Reply:
September 30th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
@bad dog, Your question B.D. is right on target, that is what I was getting at when I said: “..it is more complicated than that.” Often the personal insults come hand in hand with the incomprehensible comments. So I’m just exploring which of the two elements is it that causes me to be upset, or is it only when they are combined. Perhaps these are introspective questions, but I’m really curious why some statements that I consider completely false and negative towards me don’t bother me, while other ones kind of set me off. I don’t think I have an answer yet.
bad dog Reply:
September 30th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
@Mike 300 Spartans, Personal insults don’t bother me because nobody here knows me. The only thing that’s annoying is Chris Doster, because even a gnat can be annoying if it buzzes its childish Tourette’s Syndrome in your ear too much, but that’s really a matter of volume, not quality, and if he keeps it up, my friends “Chris Doster Sucks The Big One” and “Chris Doster Likes Gay Porn” might come back and start humping his leg to see how he likes it.
Then everybody can say, Oh, those libs, they’re so MEAN. But what they really don’t like is a liberal willing to stoop to their level. The pot really hates that kettle.
GawdDayumAmerica Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:33 am
@cld, Wish we could go back to the days when you, Doomed, Joe, etc, had real conversations, debating issues, instead of virtual personalities “throwing sand”…great observation Mike…
I try to discuss the issues but it just seems that everything I say is approached by bad dog who insults me and then someone jumps in and the sand fight starts and the issue is not discussed.
I keep trying. But it keeps getting derailed by bad dog and his Alinsky tactics.
bad dog Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:54 am
@GawdDayumAmerica, I’m sorry I interrupted your right wing circle jerk. I’m sure “debate” was much more civil here when there were no actual liberals arguing with you and you could debate the finer points of wingnut ideology, such as, “Was Obama born in Kenya or Indonesia or the USSR?”
Fandb Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
@bad dog, Actually things were more civil when the liberals who posted here argued their points without the constant whiny girlish meltdowns that are the only thing you’re capable of doing Traitor Dog. There were no personal attacks, just good discussions.
BTW, you are not an “actual liberal”. You are an actual socialist, or social democrat, but not a liberal.
I know that will send you off on another one of your shrill whiny rants, and then you’ll e-mail GTL to kick me off the site, but that’s just the way it is Socialist Gay Dog.
Deal with it.
bad dog Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 1:50 pm
@Fandb, And you get the last word, as I am now observing the Kaye-inspired truce. I wonder how long this one will last?
11:46 pm on September 29th, 2009 8
Last night there was a guest host on Mark Levine show. He took on a caller who said she was a doctor and a proponent of government health care, she held her ground quite well, didn’t sound crazy and had an answer for virtually all the host’s questions. Interesting when guest host (I forget his name) said, what if instead of creating a new gov program, how about just expanding and/or changing eligability requirements for medicare, the Doctor said she would find that acceptable. I don’t know if any of you all caught that show last night. Anyone here heard it?
cld Reply:
September 30th, 2009 at 9:47 am
@Mike 300 Spartans, Hell yea, caught that as well Mike…Simple, doesnt require 45 telepromptor speeches to confuse you even more…and 1000 pages of dribble that no ones reads….Problem is, kool aid drinkers and those controlled by their masters wont agree….the fight continues.
Mike 300 Spartans Reply:
September 30th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
@cld, Thanks for the feed back CLD
5:38 pm on September 30th, 2009 9
Uh, GTL, I think you got this story wrong. I took some time to read the complete stories you linked to, and found no evidence to support what you are saying.
First, let me summarize. Polanski was convicted, he fled more than 30 years ago. Swiss authorities recently picked him up. Several directors, without saying anything about their political affiliation, made a plea on his behalf. An internal AP memo that was leaked questioned whether it was politically motivated. The article said:
“Unsubstantiated claims are circling that Swiss authorities may be using Polanski as a sacrificial lamb to appease their US counterparts ahead of an unfolding tax-evasion scandal that involves the Swiss banking giant UBS and wealthy US account holders.”
Okay, so where in this story is …
… the “Hollywood Left” rushing to Polanski’s defense? Please explain how these directors are “leftists” and why their being “leftist” makes them want to help Polanski.
… the “crappola” that Polanski is the victim of “far-right political action”? Please explain where anybody said conservatives are trying to get Polanski, when actually, if anything, the only political motivation the directors are alleging is a deal between the Swiss and the American Justice Department, which is run by President Obama, a Democrat.
Unless you can substantiate your claims, it seems the only person making this story a Left/Right issue is you and a bunch of right wing bloggers. In that light, it’s actually not that surprising that mostly right wing bloggers are in an uproar, while liberal bloggers are mostly silent, since there seems to be nothing Left/Right political going on.
11:50 am on October 2nd, 2009 10
http://www.missourah.com/2009/09/15/obama-criticism-flow-chart/
funny….might be true…but funny.
10:06 pm on October 22nd, 2009 11
Roman Polanski is guilty of abusing a minor and he really deservers to be in jail.