Could Legal Challenges And Rumors Of Failure On Behalf Of Señor McCain And Barry “Steve” Obama’s Ability To Meet Natural-Born Citizenship Status Requirements For POTUS Run Lead To Marshall Law Under President “Surge” Dubya Bush And His Newly-Indicted Boss, Dick “Shotgun” Cheney?
It’s not looking too good right now for Señor Juan Sidney McCain, “The Esteemed Gentleman From Arizona Panama” and President-elect Barry “Steve” Obama right now. The question, H/T to those fantastic, non-biased, “Great Americans” of WorldNetDaily (Bob Unruh this time) are reporting some disturbing developments, which may, in fact, be already in motion at the SCOTUS to disqualify both Barry “Steve” and Panama Juan from their so-called “legal rights” to run for and even serve in the Oval Office.
In a moment, I’ll be providing a “snippet” or two from this disturbing WND article, but in a nutshell, a fellow (REAL) “natural born Citizen” of the United States who resides in the Great State of New Jersey by the name of Leo C. Donofrio been staying on N.J.’s Secretary of State Nina Wells like “white on rice” push this extremely important issue all the way up the steps of the Supreme Court of The United States Of America and it appears “Citizen Donofrio” has finally succeeded in having his voice heard. This man, dear readers, is nothing less than a Great American and THIS blogger thanks him sincerely for keeping it up and fighting that “good fight” to ensure this country doesn’t fall under the rule of an “outsider” of these United States.
For example, it has already been proven that Señor McCain was born in the nation of Panama, later to migrate to Arizona after earning his naturalized U.S. Citizenship by crashing airplane after airplane (Source: TPM) while protecting our freedom and democracy in Asia (including more than a few pre-war airplane crashes), then serving as a heroic POW for years. I say “who CARES if the man is a Panamanian FIRST, and an American Citizen SECOND? He’s a genuine “war hero”, for cryin’ out loud. Give the man a break. I sincerely do hope the SCOTUS takes this under consideration before arriving at the conclusion the man had no “bidness” being on a presidential ballot. Give the man a break. Barry “Steve” on the other hand… much more troubling to MOI (and again, yes… I AM part French).
For example, FactCheck.Org will verify the FACT President-elect “Barry Steve-O” wasn’t born in the continental United States either. Nope. Sorry to break it to you “lilly-livered-libs”, but the man was born thousands of miles away from the United States on a tiny island in a place called “Hawaii”. If you don’t want to take MY word for it, just click HERE and FactCheck.Org will clear that up for you and any other doubters…
That stated, let’s allow the “Fair And Balanced” WorldNetDaily take it from here, my friends…
OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
Supremes to review Barack’s citizenship
Case challenging his name on ballot set for ‘conference’A case that challenges President-elect Barack Obama’s name on the 2008 election ballot citing questions over his citizenship has been scheduled for a “conference” at the U.S. Supreme Court. …”
(Snip!)
“… The Supreme Court’s website listed the date for the case brought by Leo C. Donofrio against Nina Wells, the secretary of state in New Jersey, over not only Obama’s name on the 2008 election ballot but those of two others, Sen. John McCain and Roger Calero. …”
(Snip!)
“… Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others filed a court petition in California asking the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state’s 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. …” — WND
born at the Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children in HonoluluSo, there ya’ go — President-elect Barry WAS born in Hawaii. Not “America”. HAWAII, with a capital “H“. Not only that, according to WikiPedia, “P-E Stevo” was born at the Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu and I say if the average American (REAL) Citizen can’t properly prounounce the name of the hospital a man was born in, he should be IMMEDIATELY disqualified from serving at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, District of Columbia, but that’s just MOI…
At least any third-grade student can pronounce “Panama” and folks, that ought to be more than enough to serve as both a “wakeup call” AND prove this could, indeed, lead to a “Constitutional Crisis” and not only the possibility, but the DUTY of President George W. Bush and Richard Milhouse Cheney to declare marshall law until this serious matter can be cleared up. Even if it takes a couple of decades to get to the bottom of it and sort it all out.
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Where do I sign up for the troopers? Let us get down to the bottom of this and declare marshall law and let President, I mean King Bush rule forever! Is Hawaii even a state or just a Club Med vacation hiatus stopover for Congressional hacks?
Next election, I’m going for the John Birch candidate, then we know we have a real American born candidate.
I love it when you do satire like this GTL!
LMFAO, BRO!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the compliment. I’ve gotta be in a certain mood for this satire stuff, but when I’m on, I’m on. At least to my own satisfaction and to the dissatisfaction to the rest of the world
Blog ON, my twin brutha from anuthah muthah
Lets see, both major contenders disqualified. That would mean that come Jan 09 we might see Pres. Pelosi.
That is the stuff of nightmares.
The birth “certificate” that has been widely publicized is actually a “Certification” of live birth. Apparently it is the document Hawaii used (uses) to record births that occur outside Hawaii but which the parent(s) want to have recorded in Hawaii. It is quite different from their actual Birth “Certificate” which is used to record births that occur in Hawaii.
I know liberals like to look the other way when one of theirs is committing a felony, but this issue just might have some teeth. I’m surprised it took so long for the MSM and the bloggers to notice it. If D’Oh-bama and his bama-bots don’t respond to the Supreme Court’s request, he could be looking at a summary judgement against him.
Actually, John McCain’s citizenship was questioned by democrats early on in the campaign and he quickly, and without hesitation, produced the documents that PROVED BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that he is a natural-born U.S. citizen as defined by our Constitution.
Why is the democrats’ god-king D’Oh-bama refusing to release similar documents that will clear this up? And why is he refusing to release admission records from Occidental College, Columbia, and Harvard??? Is it because at that point in his life he was still claiming Indonesian citizenship??? Quite possibly so.
I understand all the partisan crap that fills the airwaves and the blogosphere, but I don’t understand why democrats would be so bitter, partisan, and hate-filled that they would rather see an Indonesian citizen as President-Usurper than a true American citizen. If this happens, we WILL have a full-blown – like you’ve never seen it before – constitutional crisis.
Everyone should be urging the Supreme Court to clear this matter up once and for all. And it should be done BEFORE the Electoral College (and/or the Congress) votes to actually Elect the next President. This will completely AVOID a constitutional crisis and will ensure the integrity of our Constitution.
The people have spoken. I am actually pulling for Obama on this issue just because he did win (thanks to ACORN and 700 million votes cast in Ohio alone). I want him to prove his citizenship and I hope he can do that, but if does not prove his citizenship, there must be a reason why he is failing to do so. I will not support an Indonesian citizen as President of the United States.
Where there is smoke, there is fire.
Almost forgot, FactCheck is a liberal shill organization funded by the same Annenberg committe that funded Bill Ayers…
Funny how Ayers and Obama keep popping up in the middle of all these “issues”, hmmmm…
As long as the issue is resolved before the Electoral College meets, we won’t have to worry about a President Pelosi … (shudder) … The electors from the various states will just elect someone else, probably Clinton or possibly Biden. But they can elect anyone they want.
Joe & FandB — LMFAO @ “President Pelosi”!!!!!!!
OMG, I think one thing the three of us can FULLY agree on without hesitation is we don’t NEED no stinkin’ Prez Pelosi!
My God! how long can shinnanigans like this go on without the gov’t losing all legitimacy?!
Well, I guess there is a significant portion of the US elcotrate who still thinks Bush had been a good idea…
I guess the standard for politicians are quite low because if celebrity, rich, and famous types behave in the disturbing ways they do, it must be normal. They seem to have no problem taking the money many (most?) Americans give them.
As I understand it, Obama meets the criteria of Article II of the Constitution which stipulates the minimum qualifications for the US presidency being a natural-born citizen, 35 years old, a redident of the US for fourteen years.
Hawaii became US soil in 1959 (Aug. 21) and Obama was born 1961 (Aug.4). Obama made an image document available in mid-2008 to allay concerns and it is reasonable to me that he had blacked out the certificate number in his haste to present the docu until it was confirmed that no one could do anything crazy with that info.
I also understand that the certificate looks different than other ones because they periodically change up the border on them, however this does not affect the validity of them and the date the border design is changed is noted at the very bottom of the certif, so others, born around the same time have the same border design. (Just like it is here)Also, if the certificate is not partial, the hospital has his birth records.
As for this accusation, it seems that it’s becoming redundant and they’ll have to get more creative than the ‘he’s not a citizen’ wolf cry! US lawsuits over candidates eligibility is not uncommon (though I am gald they are at least being ‘vigilant’ on this point- blind nationalism isn’t always bad), Johnny Panama (GTL makes me laugh!), Dick Cheney, and Barry Goldwater…there is probably more?!?
fanbd
I’m surprised it took so long for the MSM and the bloggers to notice it.
I would doubt it’s lack of noticing, and bet it’s a lack of this argument having much teeth.
We shall see.
If you are unaware of the whole story, maybe you should educate yourself more on the topic.
The issue is not whether Obama was born in Hawaii. The issue is whether he (Barry Soetoro) lost his U.S. citizenship when he was adopted by his mother’s second husband, Lolo Soetoro, in Indonesia. This is where he attended a Muslim school, the enrollment records of which show his name as Barry Soetoro and his citizenship as Indonesian.
“Obama” (aka Soetoro) refuses to release other records that could easily clear this up.
Even if his U.S. citizenship were lost due to these circumstances, all he has to do to regain his citizenship is to renounce his Indonesian citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to the United States.
When McCain was asked, he submitted valid PROOF of his citizenship. Why is Obama being so evasive?
There seems to be a lot of ‘reasons’ flying around as to why his citizenship is invalid. If it’s a matter of his citizenship being lost to being schooled in Indonesia for a few years, then why are you questioning the credibility of his birth certificate, and what brand it is?
If he did gain citizenship in Indonesia, would that not be ‘dual citizenship’? That is how it works as far as I understand it to btwn Canada and the US. Indonesia may be different. But I would think he retains his citizenship given his mother was on US soil when she gave birth to him. Isn’t that why there are pregnant Mexican(probably not just Mexican) women who illegally cross the border just to give birth in the US so their child will have citizenship rights?
I think Obama did provide the proof- it is his birth certificate.
How do you lose your natural citizenship rights granted by birth because you go to school in another country for a few years? Where’s the laws around that?
I hardly think someone whose been serving as senator has not cleared security checks, including having the required citizenship. I dont think the US system is drastically different from the Canadian one, and it would be required that an employee at whatever level in the gov’t, let alone the rest of the workforce here have appropriate citizenship. He wasn’t doing your laundry and cleaning your toilets before he bid for president.
Besides, would Obama really risk it? Making president knowingly not being a proper citizen, it really defies logic. I don’t know how crazy the guy is (though he seems a lot more stable than any of the other candidates, past or present) but to have aspirations to be president seems to me you’d have your $h!t in order just a little bit.
AND if he were a terrorist (though we all know terrorists are arab and muslim, right vego?) wanting to ‘take over’ your gov’t, and ‘fooling’ everyone, wouldn’t it be likely he’s have his $h!t together, and actually be sure to have non-questionable citizenship? I think anyone who gave him money to run, as a terrorist or not, would have. It seems sooo far fetched. Even I have more faith in your system than that.
I think I am going to live in Indonesia for a few years. (largest muslim population in the world, so go ahead fanbd or vego, tell me its suicide, they’ll rip me apart or cut off my head, ok, now I am just being mean).
I like the name Soetoro. It’s a lot like the Indonesian revolutionist (or anti-imperialist) Soekarno. Such an important and powerful man. He gave a moving speech when he declared Indonesia’s independance from (not just the Dutch, but the Japanese fascists), and talked about political democracy as being meaningless without economic and social democracy.
fanbd, a school registry in Indonesia back in the 60′s is a far cry from a legal document of citizenship. Because the Indonesians had suffered so much under the imperialist rule of the Dutch and did no better under the Japanese, and were fiercely nationalistic as an obvious response to both occupations, it was wise of his step-father to list him as a national to avoid discrimination and being treated as a foreigner and giving him a local name…that was a good fatherly thing to do in protecting his boy, but a school registry hardly changes his citizenship. I have never had to provide proof to my schools about my citizenship beyond checking a box in an application as being one or another (which also just differentiates what price I pay as far as I know), and I’m not even talking elementary school- that is true for Uni. and I know that Canada is much more stringent on regulations now than Indonesian elementary schools were in the 60′s.
fanbd said “all he has to do to regain his citizenship is to renounce his Indonesian citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to the United States.”
I guess when he’s sworn into office, it will cover this ‘requirement’ then?
But I would think that if in fact he actually were of Indonesian citizenship and not of American, he’d have a few more hoops to jump in ‘regaining’ his American citizenship.
Stellar – regarding post 14: as I understand it, it was the adoption by his Indonesian step-father, not the school registration, that altered his citizenship status under Indonesian law at the time.
regarding #13: you can live wherever you want, it makes no difference to me.
Also, “…so go ahead fanbd or vego, tell me its suicide, they’ll rip me apart or cut off my head…” – you make some rather large and inaccurate assumptions about me to come up with a statement like that.
I’m sure you’ll be welcomed in Indonesia. They probably like any westerner who comes there and spends money.
RE:#13, I am sorry fanbd, that was more ‘like’ a comment vego would make, though vego does not seem to be present on this post to defend her(?)self. I am just getting used to the massive generalizations I have heard from some about the nature of things, and you are completely right, I shouldn’t internalize them. Actually, I avoid generalizing about people because I know it isn’t right, or realistic, and so I won’t even play that way.
and about my moving to indonesia for a few years, I didn’t think it would interest you in particular, hehehe, but I do think its a cool idea worth sharing, as someone ‘out there’ or ‘on here’ might happen to read it and have some experience to share in kind. Something like, ‘yeah stellar, I lived there for 3 years and it was awesome, highly recommend the local pho’hoa, huang long!’ I think of this blogging thing as being ‘interactive’ with potentials to broaden my scope of knowledge and sight through yours, or anyone else whose sparked by some comment I, or others might make.
don’t you think that saying that I’d be welcomed in indonesia as a westerner spending money is a generalization as to what motivates the indonesian people. Or a generalization of me? I’d like to think that people still have humanity about them, and that whether one is welcomed or not is leastly based on how much money they are going to ‘spend’.
as for adoption, I just don’t think it would alter ones natural citizenship, but rather it’d be supplementary. I didn’t think anything could alter ones natural citizenship.
ah stella, my humble,unpretentious friend, i see you just cant quit thinking about me. actually I think most of them are bearded canadian leftists.
everybody knows B.H. Ogodma was born in kenya.
and for the sake of the subject in post 3 i hope we never prove it
as far as how long can BS shennanigans like this go on?
here is a hint;
Bush stole the election
by generalizations you must mean the pragmatic, sensible, view points that some of us have brought forth in these postings as opposed to long, dope addled, liberal ramblings that others put forth?
I admit im a little tired. I had to fire up the global warmer/ or climate changer(for you neoenviro’s) today and go do a little planet raping. being a conservationist, i try to exploit canadian resources first, thus conserving america’s resources for my children.
not really on topic but the pelosi comments made me recall a humorous sight from yesterday.
a news conference with pelosi, ried, and frank, with shumer and dodd in back all jostling each other to get their yappers in front of a microphone to pontificate to the public how they sent those men from the car companies back to get their 25 billion dollar wish list in order before they came back asking for any more money.
wink wink.
WHAT A BUNCH OF LIARS. if it was up to that commie cartel they would have sent a gov’t courier with a check for 50 billion.
thank goodness for the few true conservatives we have remaining in congress…on both sides of the aisle.
Let’s talk about sneaky for a moment.
In a Constitutional Resolution in April of this year (08), a number of Obama’s congressional supporters – including Gov. Claire McCaskill (D-MOi), Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK), Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), and Sen. James Webb (D-VA) –proposed and passed a Resolution (S.Res.511) entitled: Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.
S. Res.511 clearly states that “…Whereas the term `natural born Citizen’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States…”
This was the first step in opening the door to the fact that even if Obama was born on the moon, he would be deemed eligible. http://ahrcanum.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/obamas-aunt-and-anti-rumor-plans/
it never fails to amaze me how ridiculously petty and smug liberals can be, I am beyond positive that you will not find a post where i generalized muslims as terrorists, if all muslims are terrorists then why would I be in favor of our troops helping the people of the middle east break the bonds of evil tyranny. Its a very good thing the people of the world didnt share your attitude about facing down evil when Hitler was in power. I agree with fandb of course, I encourage you to live where ever you choose. And my best wishes to you in that endeavor and what ever else you choose to do, I would encourage you though to pull your nose out of your text books and the stick out of your *** and take a look around at the real world we live in rather than western society guilt history book world you have been living in.
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