So based upon your will of the people line of reasoning, when Bush was reelected in 2004 the people should have just shut up and let Bush continue the war?

Is that what the will of the people was in 2004?

The personal responsibility mandate within the Senate Bill. The mandate is required in order to increase the risk pool. Increasing the risk pool with a population that’s skewed towards the healthy will naturally lead to lower premiums. Consult your actuarial risk formulas if you don’t believe me. Currently every man, woman and child in this country is on the hook for $300 per year for the cost of unreimbursed care. Yep you are already paying that. You don’t have to believe me you can look it up yourselves. The GOP proposals of opening interstate commerce, repealing the anti-trust exemption, and tort reform, while notable, would not lead to the cost savings many seek, and would do nothing to extend health care to America’s working poor, and would do nothing to affect the risk pool. The cost of malpractice suits represent about 3% of all health care cost, and the profit margins of healthcare insures are about 2 to 3%. Now if you’re going to believe that insurers would cut their profit margins to 0% then the combined effect of all the GOP proposals would be a whopping savings of $177.00 per year per capita. Wow, $177.00 per year is certainly worth the effort of pushing that through congress, especially considering it would do nothing to cover the cost of unreimbused care. The GOP proposal, if you really want to call it that, leaves Americans in the hole, and does nothing to affect the risk pool. What one can guarantee with the GOP plan is that after that initial $177.00 per year, cost would continue to move upward, more healthy people would drop coverage, and the risk pool would decrease and skew towards the most ill. That would be the colossal failure of either doing nothing or just enacting the GOP proposals. And as far as the GOP proposal for high risk pools, ok, now we are on to something. According to the CBO, rates for employers with the 50 employee or less segment could see a drop in premium price from 7 to 10%. That’s pretty good actually, that is until you realize that’s the only cost savings measure of import and that it only represents a small segment of the population and after you take away the 11% increase in premium cost health insurers were already planning we are left with just another 1% savings or $3 per capita. Not so encouraging. For the rest of the population the GOP plan would have a negligible effect

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_39/b4148030880703.htm... See More

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUS137490+27-May-2009+PRN20090527

http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=4968&type=0

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Daily-Reports/2009/September/17/Malpractice.aspx?referrer=search

http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc10705/hr3962amendmentBoehner.pdf

Please notice none of my references are partisan

Specifically to “Doomed”:
An election result is FAR different than a poll. Election results represent the will of the people, polls however, represent the will of the pollster (as some have noted with this CNN poll or like Reagan said “polls can say anything”). Since America doesn’t have plebiscites we have to depend on the election results to tell us how government should run. So until the right gets a chance to reveres course in 2010 and/or 2012, we are just going to have to go with what they said in 2008.

There ’s one provision that I found particularly troubling and it’s under section C, titled “Limitations on changes to this subsection.” And I quote — “It shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection.” This is not legislation. It’s not law. This is a rule change. It’s a pretty big deal. We will be passing a new law and at the same time creating a Senate rule that makes it out of order to amend or even repeal the law.

In essence the run amuck Tyrants called democrats have done something that people are questioning its constitutionality of the entire bill. They are saying that it will take a super majority of 67 Republicans to EVER repeal this vote.

They have learned well from California’s debacle.

When Tyrants rule we get tyrannical laws.

According to a Senate legislative aide, the scandal-plagued Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now could qualify for grants under this provision. ACORN would also qualify for funding on page 150 of the underlying Reid bill, which says that “community and consumer-focused nonprofit groups” may receive grants to “conduct public education activities to raise awareness of the availability of qualified health plans.”

Acorn gets funded no matter what.

This provision is what BOUGHT Roland Burris vote.

Start with the special tax carve-outs included in the “manager’s amendment” that Harry Reid dropped Saturday morning. White House budget director Peter Orszag has claimed that the bill’s 40% excise tax on high-cost insurance plans is key to reducing health costs. Yet the Senate Majority Leader’s new version specifically exempts “individuals whose primary work is longshore work.”

Okay they taxed EVERYONES high cost insurance in the bill sent to CBO for analysis. But after it comes back…they drop the exemption for LONGSHOREMEN.

Do I have to say more.

Montana, Utah, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota get much larger percents of their MEDICAIDE paid BY YOU>>>THE TAXPAYER because…well it was the only way to get Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota’s vote and Wyoming and Utah just happen to fall into the identical interpretation of the amendment.

Nebraska NEVAH…EVAH has to pay for any Medicaide insurance….EVAH! It was the only way to BUY Ben Nelsons vote for this….

Stupid egregious bill.

The Reid bill also gives a pass on the excise tax to the 17 states with the highest health costs.

Naturally, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will decide how to measure “costs” and therefore which 17 states qualify. (Prediction: Swing states that voted for Mr. Obama in 2008 or have powerful Democratic Senators.)

And the coup de gra.

Or take a separate $6.7 billion annual “fee” on insurance companies that is supposed to be divvied up by market share. This beaut doesn’t claim to be anything more than a revenue grab, but at the behest of Michigan Senator Carl Levin Democrats chose to apply it to some insurers and not others.

We can thank a handfull of Democratic senators for this one as select insurance companies are exempted from this tax. Of course these few insurers are from the states of California, Michigan and ILLINOIS.

That is why REID dont let us READ.

A vast number disapprove of the bill anyway.

A vast number disapprove of the bill anyway.

According to the poll, 42 percent of Americans, based on what they’ve read or heard about the bill, support Senate Democrat’s legislation. That’s up from 36 percent in a poll conducted December 2-3. Nonetheless, a majority of people questioned in the survey, 56 percent, oppose the bill.

Hey remember the Democrats claimed that Obama elected with a 55 percent plurality of the votes was a MANDATE…MANDATE…elections have consequences……55 percent is HUGE…its a MANDATE…its a license to do what they want.

WELL

56 percent say NUT UH!!! This health care bill stinks!!!!

The democrats say……………F*** YOU!! So 55 or 56 percent only matters when they say it matters.

The party of perpetual poverty is finding more and more ingenious ways to take our money and I find it insane that GTL a libertarian is not fighting this tooth and nail.

But I digress.

Revealed last night…in this health care bill that REID wont let anyone READ.

National long term health care is provided as an option. SWEET…thats nice….Ah Shucks that government is so nice.

Heres how our benefactors have it working….

YOU pay premiums for 7 years….YOUR PAID UP FOREVAH!!! So if you pay at age 21 at age 28 your paid up the rest of your life………SWEET…them democrats are so nice to us folks.

There is only one minor problem….This is another UNFUNDED government program in which the government is going to take THIS money and use it for something else WHILE BEING COMMITTED TO PAY FOR YOUR>>>YOUR>>>>YOUR>>>>>long term health care.

and the spin is…this is not government take over of health…YOUR HEALTH….

This is those swell democrats looking out for the folks.

yeah…till we have no money left to pay for anything….dont think it can happen? Just look at the USSR who thought it swell to pay for everything.